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every number micron reported last night came in above what i'd assumed going in. my analysis was very much on point. the $33.2bn of cash it made last quarter has no customer deposits in it, which puts the business alone on a pace of about $123bn a year. long-term deals went from 16 to 26, contracted revenue went from about $100bn to about $150bn, and the new deals are priced off today's market. spending came in higher too. most of it goes into buildings that won't produce memory until late 2028. the stock moved about 2% and trades around 7 times its november quarter over a full year. still bullish. $MUB #EarningsSeason {spot}(MUBUSDT)
every number micron reported last night came in above what i'd assumed going in. my analysis was very much on point.

the $33.2bn of cash it made last quarter has no customer deposits in it, which puts the business alone on a pace of about $123bn a year. long-term deals went from 16 to 26, contracted revenue went from about $100bn to about $150bn, and the new deals are priced off today's market.

spending came in higher too. most of it goes into buildings that won't produce memory until late 2028.

the stock moved about 2% and trades around 7 times its november quarter over a full year. still bullish.

$MUB

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Micron's memory upturn is far from over
My Thesis
Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run.
Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse.
HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December.
Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly.
#EarningsSeason


Read my thesis below.
The money in AI has moved to memory
For most of this build, GPUs were the obvious bottleneck, and NVIDIA's mid-70s gross margin made that easy to see. Micron is now keeping more of each sales dollar than NVIDIA. Its non-GAAP gross margin was 84.9% in the quarter to May and it has guided about 86% for tonight, while NVIDIA made 75.0% in the quarter to July and has guided about 74% for the next one.

WSTS expects memory sales of more than $800bn in a $1.51tn chip market this year. That is more than half the whole semiconductor market. On my back-calculation, memory was about 29% of 2025's $792bn of chip sales. The profit pool has moved pretty hard toward memory as supply tightened.
Using the shares Micron discloses in its 10-Q filings, its largest customer, almost certainly NVIDIA, was about 17% of revenue in November and about 7% by May. That customer's spending grew about 30%. The rest of Micron's customers grew 3.4x over the same period, so the extra money is coming from cloud, PC and phone customers too.

Micron is building less than it could afford to
Memory cycles usually break after the industry gets rich and starts building too much. Micron spent 27% of its sales on capex at the 2018 peak, then raised spending to $9.1bn in fiscal 2019 while revenue fell 23%. For the next six years capex never fell below 32% of sales, and in the loss year of 2023 it was 45%.

Micron guided about $27bn of capex for fiscal 2026, roughly 21% of about $130bn of revenue. Even if fiscal 2027 capex gets to the roughly $50bn the Street expects and sales never grow past the November quarter, capex is still only about 22% of revenue. The dollars are huge, but as a share of what Micron is earning this is still the least it has spent in a decade.
Cleanroom space is already limiting what the memory makers can add. 
Samsung has said supply growth in 2026 and 2027 is limited by cleanroom space, SK hynix's next big fab starts running in mid-2027 and Samsung's in 2028, and HBM uses about three times the wafer area of DDR5 for the same capacity. 
So even a lot of new wafer spending does not automatically turn into ordinary DRAM supply.
Customers are paying up front to lock in supply
In June Micron announced 16 multi-year agreements covering about 20% of its DRAM volume and a third of its NAND. They're take-or-pay with binding volumes. Customers are putting up about $22bn of deposits and commitments, around $18bn of it in cash, and that cash earns them nothing. At 5%, they are giving up about $900m a year of interest just to know the memory will be there. Micron's CEO has said customers want about 50% more supply than Micron can commit to.
The largest contracts cap prices near where the market was in April to June. Those customers prepaid against a ceiling that the market moved through almost immediately. TrendForce had contract prices about 15% above that level in the September quarter and is heading for about 30% above by December.

UBS carries that gap out much longer. It has the open-market price rising from $16.30 to $23.4 a gigabyte and staying above $20 until mid-2028, while the contract price sits at $10.50. On that model the shortage does not really clear for close to another two years.

Micron has also left roughly three quarters of its DRAM at market prices. In my model, taking contract coverage from 23% to 50% costs about $6.4 of yearly EPS at today's prices and about $15 if prices rise another 20%. It only helps if prices fall by more than about half. Management could have locked more volume and chose not to.

A bad year for Micron is now a profitable one
Micron lost $4.45 a share in fiscal 2023. The contracts make a repeat much harder. Management says floor pricing still gives margins well above any past peak, which was about 62%, and three different ways of backing into the floor, the margin language, the $100bn contract minimum and the covered volume, put it around half of today's price. That is roughly where the market was in February, when Micron earned $12.20 a share in the quarter.

On my numbers, that puts a bad year around $47 to $49 a share, close to six times the $8.29 Micron earned in fiscal 2025. The floor-priced contracts themselves only lock in about $11 of that. The take-or-pay volume does more work because 2023 was not just a pricing problem. Micron was carrying idle fabs and writing down inventory. Take-or-pay means fewer idle fabs if spot demand collapses.
HBM prices have to rise from here
HBM still carries the premium label, but Micron currently makes more money per wafer on ordinary DRAM. TrendForce said HBM3E used to sell for four to five times server DDR5 per bit, narrowing to one to two times by the end of 2026, while HBM still takes about three times the wafer area. Put those together and the revenue from an HBM wafer has gone from about 1.5x a DDR5 wafer to about 0.5x.

UBS has Micron at about 89% gross margin on ordinary DRAM in May and 65% on HBM. If that stays there, Micron has a pretty obvious reason to keep wafers in DDR5 until HBM pricing catches up.

TrendForce already expects HBM contract prices to rise sharply in 2027. HBM4 and HBM4E sit outside the price ceiling in Micron's agreements. 
If HBM is roughly a $100bn market in 2027 and Micron keeps a little over a fifth of it, getting HBM back to parity with DDR5 per wafer adds something like $16 a share a year on my math. If fewer HBM stacks get used per chip instead, wafers go back into server DRAM just as TrendForce raised its fourth-quarter price outlook on cloud demand. Micron is currently making more margin there anyway.
Tonight's quarter has an extra week in it
Micron's fiscal 2026 has 53 weeks, and the extra one is in the August quarter. August has 14 weeks; May and November have 13. Consensus has August at about $51.4bn of revenue and $31.73 a share, then November at $56.85bn and $34.95. As reported, revenue growth looks like it slows from 24% to 11%. Divide by weeks and it goes from about 15% to about 19%. EPS per week goes from about 17% to about 19% too.

TrendForce had contract prices up 90% to 95% in the March quarter and 58% to 63% in June, then 13% to 18% in September, and it expects 10% to 15% for December. 10% or 15% sounds a lot smaller than ninety. It is also being applied to a price level about 3.6x where December started.

Options are pricing a move of about 8% either way. If the stock drops because the November guide only looks like 10% growth, I will check the per week number before I assess anything into it.
The cash goes back to shareholders from 9 December
Micron guided free cash flow above $30bn for August, up from $18.3bn in May, even with capex rising from $7.1bn to about $10bn. A lot of that jump is customer money arriving early. Sell-side estimates put about $10bn of deposits in the quarter, and the extra week helps too.

Even if I strip the deposits out, Micron is still running at something like $80bn a year of free cash flow, about 7% of its $1.22tn market value. Include them and it is closer to 10%. From 9 December the CHIPS Act buyback restriction expires, and management has said it'll return 100% of excess cash over time. UBS models $623bn of buybacks from fiscal 2027 to 2030. On its numbers, the share count falls by about a third and fiscal 2028 EPS gets about $31 higher.

From 9 December Micron can start buying stock back, and some of the cash behind that program is coming from customers paying early for memory.
What $1,065 pays for
At the 29 September close of $1,065, Micron is worth about $1.22tn and trades at under seven times fiscal 2027 consensus of $159 a share. Put 10x on that number and you get about $1,590, 49% above the close.
I would rather value a memory company on something close to mid-cycle earnings than on the best year. With a bad year around $48 a share and a good one around $140 to $159, I get a middle around $95 to $105. At 12 to 15 times that, the range is about $1,130 to $1,560 before I give any credit to buybacks.

The sell-side numbers are all over the place on fiscal 2028 EPS, from about $151 to $275 across four notes this month. The targets are much closer together, and all of them sit 31% to 53% above the 29 September close.

I'm focusing more on capex and Taiwan
If this breaks, capex is probably where I see it first. A return above about 30% of sales, which means well over $65bn on fiscal 2027 revenue, would start to look like the old cycle again. I would also get nervous if contract price increases fall into low single digits before HBM reprices, or if customers start trying to renegotiate the deposits.
Taiwan is the other one. Two unions at Taoyuan and Taichung represent about 10,000 of Micron's 15,000 staff there, where most of Micron's DRAM was made in 2025. They want 15% of operating profit paid out quarterly. Mediation broke down on 21 September and a strike vote is planned for early October. Samsung settled in May at 10.5% of its chip division's operating profit for ten years, and SK hynix pays 10%.

If Micron settles around the Korean numbers, I get roughly 10% off EPS, about $16 a share on fiscal 2027 consensus. Micron can absorb that. A strike is much worse because it would hit the fabs making most of its DRAM while the company is signing more take-or-pay volume with customers.
Tonight I'm reading the November guide per week, then the contracted revenue in the 10-K and how much of it is on new products, how much of the cash flow came from deposits, fiscal 2027 capex against the roughly $50bn expectation, and whatever management says about Taiwan.
#EarningsSeason
DISCLAIMER
I am doing this independently and sharing it as part of my own research and thinking. The views here are my own and are based on the information available to me at the time. This should not be treated as investment advice or a recommendation to buy, sell, or invest in anything mentioned. Please do your own research, my analysis is my own.
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in my pre-earnings piece i said micron's upturn was far from over. last night it beat on every number and guided the November quarter to $61.5bn, 8% above what analysts had, and the stock barely moved. $1600 price target coming soon. #EarningsSeason $MUB {spot}(MUBUSDT)
in my pre-earnings piece i said micron's upturn was far from over.

last night it beat on every number and guided the November quarter to $61.5bn, 8% above what analysts had, and the stock barely moved.

$1600 price target coming soon.

#EarningsSeason

$MUB
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Micron's memory upturn is far from over
My Thesis
Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run.
Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse.
HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December.
Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly.
#EarningsSeason


Read my thesis below.
The money in AI has moved to memory
For most of this build, GPUs were the obvious bottleneck, and NVIDIA's mid-70s gross margin made that easy to see. Micron is now keeping more of each sales dollar than NVIDIA. Its non-GAAP gross margin was 84.9% in the quarter to May and it has guided about 86% for tonight, while NVIDIA made 75.0% in the quarter to July and has guided about 74% for the next one.

WSTS expects memory sales of more than $800bn in a $1.51tn chip market this year. That is more than half the whole semiconductor market. On my back-calculation, memory was about 29% of 2025's $792bn of chip sales. The profit pool has moved pretty hard toward memory as supply tightened.
Using the shares Micron discloses in its 10-Q filings, its largest customer, almost certainly NVIDIA, was about 17% of revenue in November and about 7% by May. That customer's spending grew about 30%. The rest of Micron's customers grew 3.4x over the same period, so the extra money is coming from cloud, PC and phone customers too.

Micron is building less than it could afford to
Memory cycles usually break after the industry gets rich and starts building too much. Micron spent 27% of its sales on capex at the 2018 peak, then raised spending to $9.1bn in fiscal 2019 while revenue fell 23%. For the next six years capex never fell below 32% of sales, and in the loss year of 2023 it was 45%.

Micron guided about $27bn of capex for fiscal 2026, roughly 21% of about $130bn of revenue. Even if fiscal 2027 capex gets to the roughly $50bn the Street expects and sales never grow past the November quarter, capex is still only about 22% of revenue. The dollars are huge, but as a share of what Micron is earning this is still the least it has spent in a decade.
Cleanroom space is already limiting what the memory makers can add. 
Samsung has said supply growth in 2026 and 2027 is limited by cleanroom space, SK hynix's next big fab starts running in mid-2027 and Samsung's in 2028, and HBM uses about three times the wafer area of DDR5 for the same capacity. 
So even a lot of new wafer spending does not automatically turn into ordinary DRAM supply.
Customers are paying up front to lock in supply
In June Micron announced 16 multi-year agreements covering about 20% of its DRAM volume and a third of its NAND. They're take-or-pay with binding volumes. Customers are putting up about $22bn of deposits and commitments, around $18bn of it in cash, and that cash earns them nothing. At 5%, they are giving up about $900m a year of interest just to know the memory will be there. Micron's CEO has said customers want about 50% more supply than Micron can commit to.
The largest contracts cap prices near where the market was in April to June. Those customers prepaid against a ceiling that the market moved through almost immediately. TrendForce had contract prices about 15% above that level in the September quarter and is heading for about 30% above by December.

UBS carries that gap out much longer. It has the open-market price rising from $16.30 to $23.4 a gigabyte and staying above $20 until mid-2028, while the contract price sits at $10.50. On that model the shortage does not really clear for close to another two years.

Micron has also left roughly three quarters of its DRAM at market prices. In my model, taking contract coverage from 23% to 50% costs about $6.4 of yearly EPS at today's prices and about $15 if prices rise another 20%. It only helps if prices fall by more than about half. Management could have locked more volume and chose not to.

A bad year for Micron is now a profitable one
Micron lost $4.45 a share in fiscal 2023. The contracts make a repeat much harder. Management says floor pricing still gives margins well above any past peak, which was about 62%, and three different ways of backing into the floor, the margin language, the $100bn contract minimum and the covered volume, put it around half of today's price. That is roughly where the market was in February, when Micron earned $12.20 a share in the quarter.

On my numbers, that puts a bad year around $47 to $49 a share, close to six times the $8.29 Micron earned in fiscal 2025. The floor-priced contracts themselves only lock in about $11 of that. The take-or-pay volume does more work because 2023 was not just a pricing problem. Micron was carrying idle fabs and writing down inventory. Take-or-pay means fewer idle fabs if spot demand collapses.
HBM prices have to rise from here
HBM still carries the premium label, but Micron currently makes more money per wafer on ordinary DRAM. TrendForce said HBM3E used to sell for four to five times server DDR5 per bit, narrowing to one to two times by the end of 2026, while HBM still takes about three times the wafer area. Put those together and the revenue from an HBM wafer has gone from about 1.5x a DDR5 wafer to about 0.5x.

UBS has Micron at about 89% gross margin on ordinary DRAM in May and 65% on HBM. If that stays there, Micron has a pretty obvious reason to keep wafers in DDR5 until HBM pricing catches up.

TrendForce already expects HBM contract prices to rise sharply in 2027. HBM4 and HBM4E sit outside the price ceiling in Micron's agreements. 
If HBM is roughly a $100bn market in 2027 and Micron keeps a little over a fifth of it, getting HBM back to parity with DDR5 per wafer adds something like $16 a share a year on my math. If fewer HBM stacks get used per chip instead, wafers go back into server DRAM just as TrendForce raised its fourth-quarter price outlook on cloud demand. Micron is currently making more margin there anyway.
Tonight's quarter has an extra week in it
Micron's fiscal 2026 has 53 weeks, and the extra one is in the August quarter. August has 14 weeks; May and November have 13. Consensus has August at about $51.4bn of revenue and $31.73 a share, then November at $56.85bn and $34.95. As reported, revenue growth looks like it slows from 24% to 11%. Divide by weeks and it goes from about 15% to about 19%. EPS per week goes from about 17% to about 19% too.

TrendForce had contract prices up 90% to 95% in the March quarter and 58% to 63% in June, then 13% to 18% in September, and it expects 10% to 15% for December. 10% or 15% sounds a lot smaller than ninety. It is also being applied to a price level about 3.6x where December started.

Options are pricing a move of about 8% either way. If the stock drops because the November guide only looks like 10% growth, I will check the per week number before I assess anything into it.
The cash goes back to shareholders from 9 December
Micron guided free cash flow above $30bn for August, up from $18.3bn in May, even with capex rising from $7.1bn to about $10bn. A lot of that jump is customer money arriving early. Sell-side estimates put about $10bn of deposits in the quarter, and the extra week helps too.

Even if I strip the deposits out, Micron is still running at something like $80bn a year of free cash flow, about 7% of its $1.22tn market value. Include them and it is closer to 10%. From 9 December the CHIPS Act buyback restriction expires, and management has said it'll return 100% of excess cash over time. UBS models $623bn of buybacks from fiscal 2027 to 2030. On its numbers, the share count falls by about a third and fiscal 2028 EPS gets about $31 higher.

From 9 December Micron can start buying stock back, and some of the cash behind that program is coming from customers paying early for memory.
What $1,065 pays for
At the 29 September close of $1,065, Micron is worth about $1.22tn and trades at under seven times fiscal 2027 consensus of $159 a share. Put 10x on that number and you get about $1,590, 49% above the close.
I would rather value a memory company on something close to mid-cycle earnings than on the best year. With a bad year around $48 a share and a good one around $140 to $159, I get a middle around $95 to $105. At 12 to 15 times that, the range is about $1,130 to $1,560 before I give any credit to buybacks.

The sell-side numbers are all over the place on fiscal 2028 EPS, from about $151 to $275 across four notes this month. The targets are much closer together, and all of them sit 31% to 53% above the 29 September close.

I'm focusing more on capex and Taiwan
If this breaks, capex is probably where I see it first. A return above about 30% of sales, which means well over $65bn on fiscal 2027 revenue, would start to look like the old cycle again. I would also get nervous if contract price increases fall into low single digits before HBM reprices, or if customers start trying to renegotiate the deposits.
Taiwan is the other one. Two unions at Taoyuan and Taichung represent about 10,000 of Micron's 15,000 staff there, where most of Micron's DRAM was made in 2025. They want 15% of operating profit paid out quarterly. Mediation broke down on 21 September and a strike vote is planned for early October. Samsung settled in May at 10.5% of its chip division's operating profit for ten years, and SK hynix pays 10%.

If Micron settles around the Korean numbers, I get roughly 10% off EPS, about $16 a share on fiscal 2027 consensus. Micron can absorb that. A strike is much worse because it would hit the fabs making most of its DRAM while the company is signing more take-or-pay volume with customers.
Tonight I'm reading the November guide per week, then the contracted revenue in the 10-K and how much of it is on new products, how much of the cash flow came from deposits, fiscal 2027 capex against the roughly $50bn expectation, and whatever management says about Taiwan.
#EarningsSeason
DISCLAIMER
I am doing this independently and sharing it as part of my own research and thinking. The views here are my own and are based on the information available to me at the time. This should not be treated as investment advice or a recommendation to buy, sell, or invest in anything mentioned. Please do your own research, my analysis is my own.
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Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run. Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse. HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December. Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly. $MUB Micron. #EarningsSeason {spot}(MUBUSDT)
Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run.

Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse.

HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December.

Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly.

$MUB Micron. #EarningsSeason
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Micron's memory upturn is far from over
My Thesis
Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run.
Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse.
HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December.
Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly.
#EarningsSeason


Read my thesis below.
The money in AI has moved to memory
For most of this build, GPUs were the obvious bottleneck, and NVIDIA's mid-70s gross margin made that easy to see. Micron is now keeping more of each sales dollar than NVIDIA. Its non-GAAP gross margin was 84.9% in the quarter to May and it has guided about 86% for tonight, while NVIDIA made 75.0% in the quarter to July and has guided about 74% for the next one.

WSTS expects memory sales of more than $800bn in a $1.51tn chip market this year. That is more than half the whole semiconductor market. On my back-calculation, memory was about 29% of 2025's $792bn of chip sales. The profit pool has moved pretty hard toward memory as supply tightened.
Using the shares Micron discloses in its 10-Q filings, its largest customer, almost certainly NVIDIA, was about 17% of revenue in November and about 7% by May. That customer's spending grew about 30%. The rest of Micron's customers grew 3.4x over the same period, so the extra money is coming from cloud, PC and phone customers too.

Micron is building less than it could afford to
Memory cycles usually break after the industry gets rich and starts building too much. Micron spent 27% of its sales on capex at the 2018 peak, then raised spending to $9.1bn in fiscal 2019 while revenue fell 23%. For the next six years capex never fell below 32% of sales, and in the loss year of 2023 it was 45%.

Micron guided about $27bn of capex for fiscal 2026, roughly 21% of about $130bn of revenue. Even if fiscal 2027 capex gets to the roughly $50bn the Street expects and sales never grow past the November quarter, capex is still only about 22% of revenue. The dollars are huge, but as a share of what Micron is earning this is still the least it has spent in a decade.
Cleanroom space is already limiting what the memory makers can add. 
Samsung has said supply growth in 2026 and 2027 is limited by cleanroom space, SK hynix's next big fab starts running in mid-2027 and Samsung's in 2028, and HBM uses about three times the wafer area of DDR5 for the same capacity. 
So even a lot of new wafer spending does not automatically turn into ordinary DRAM supply.
Customers are paying up front to lock in supply
In June Micron announced 16 multi-year agreements covering about 20% of its DRAM volume and a third of its NAND. They're take-or-pay with binding volumes. Customers are putting up about $22bn of deposits and commitments, around $18bn of it in cash, and that cash earns them nothing. At 5%, they are giving up about $900m a year of interest just to know the memory will be there. Micron's CEO has said customers want about 50% more supply than Micron can commit to.
The largest contracts cap prices near where the market was in April to June. Those customers prepaid against a ceiling that the market moved through almost immediately. TrendForce had contract prices about 15% above that level in the September quarter and is heading for about 30% above by December.

UBS carries that gap out much longer. It has the open-market price rising from $16.30 to $23.4 a gigabyte and staying above $20 until mid-2028, while the contract price sits at $10.50. On that model the shortage does not really clear for close to another two years.

Micron has also left roughly three quarters of its DRAM at market prices. In my model, taking contract coverage from 23% to 50% costs about $6.4 of yearly EPS at today's prices and about $15 if prices rise another 20%. It only helps if prices fall by more than about half. Management could have locked more volume and chose not to.

A bad year for Micron is now a profitable one
Micron lost $4.45 a share in fiscal 2023. The contracts make a repeat much harder. Management says floor pricing still gives margins well above any past peak, which was about 62%, and three different ways of backing into the floor, the margin language, the $100bn contract minimum and the covered volume, put it around half of today's price. That is roughly where the market was in February, when Micron earned $12.20 a share in the quarter.

On my numbers, that puts a bad year around $47 to $49 a share, close to six times the $8.29 Micron earned in fiscal 2025. The floor-priced contracts themselves only lock in about $11 of that. The take-or-pay volume does more work because 2023 was not just a pricing problem. Micron was carrying idle fabs and writing down inventory. Take-or-pay means fewer idle fabs if spot demand collapses.
HBM prices have to rise from here
HBM still carries the premium label, but Micron currently makes more money per wafer on ordinary DRAM. TrendForce said HBM3E used to sell for four to five times server DDR5 per bit, narrowing to one to two times by the end of 2026, while HBM still takes about three times the wafer area. Put those together and the revenue from an HBM wafer has gone from about 1.5x a DDR5 wafer to about 0.5x.

UBS has Micron at about 89% gross margin on ordinary DRAM in May and 65% on HBM. If that stays there, Micron has a pretty obvious reason to keep wafers in DDR5 until HBM pricing catches up.

TrendForce already expects HBM contract prices to rise sharply in 2027. HBM4 and HBM4E sit outside the price ceiling in Micron's agreements. 
If HBM is roughly a $100bn market in 2027 and Micron keeps a little over a fifth of it, getting HBM back to parity with DDR5 per wafer adds something like $16 a share a year on my math. If fewer HBM stacks get used per chip instead, wafers go back into server DRAM just as TrendForce raised its fourth-quarter price outlook on cloud demand. Micron is currently making more margin there anyway.
Tonight's quarter has an extra week in it
Micron's fiscal 2026 has 53 weeks, and the extra one is in the August quarter. August has 14 weeks; May and November have 13. Consensus has August at about $51.4bn of revenue and $31.73 a share, then November at $56.85bn and $34.95. As reported, revenue growth looks like it slows from 24% to 11%. Divide by weeks and it goes from about 15% to about 19%. EPS per week goes from about 17% to about 19% too.

TrendForce had contract prices up 90% to 95% in the March quarter and 58% to 63% in June, then 13% to 18% in September, and it expects 10% to 15% for December. 10% or 15% sounds a lot smaller than ninety. It is also being applied to a price level about 3.6x where December started.

Options are pricing a move of about 8% either way. If the stock drops because the November guide only looks like 10% growth, I will check the per week number before I assess anything into it.
The cash goes back to shareholders from 9 December
Micron guided free cash flow above $30bn for August, up from $18.3bn in May, even with capex rising from $7.1bn to about $10bn. A lot of that jump is customer money arriving early. Sell-side estimates put about $10bn of deposits in the quarter, and the extra week helps too.

Even if I strip the deposits out, Micron is still running at something like $80bn a year of free cash flow, about 7% of its $1.22tn market value. Include them and it is closer to 10%. From 9 December the CHIPS Act buyback restriction expires, and management has said it'll return 100% of excess cash over time. UBS models $623bn of buybacks from fiscal 2027 to 2030. On its numbers, the share count falls by about a third and fiscal 2028 EPS gets about $31 higher.

From 9 December Micron can start buying stock back, and some of the cash behind that program is coming from customers paying early for memory.
What $1,065 pays for
At the 29 September close of $1,065, Micron is worth about $1.22tn and trades at under seven times fiscal 2027 consensus of $159 a share. Put 10x on that number and you get about $1,590, 49% above the close.
I would rather value a memory company on something close to mid-cycle earnings than on the best year. With a bad year around $48 a share and a good one around $140 to $159, I get a middle around $95 to $105. At 12 to 15 times that, the range is about $1,130 to $1,560 before I give any credit to buybacks.

The sell-side numbers are all over the place on fiscal 2028 EPS, from about $151 to $275 across four notes this month. The targets are much closer together, and all of them sit 31% to 53% above the 29 September close.

I'm focusing more on capex and Taiwan
If this breaks, capex is probably where I see it first. A return above about 30% of sales, which means well over $65bn on fiscal 2027 revenue, would start to look like the old cycle again. I would also get nervous if contract price increases fall into low single digits before HBM reprices, or if customers start trying to renegotiate the deposits.
Taiwan is the other one. Two unions at Taoyuan and Taichung represent about 10,000 of Micron's 15,000 staff there, where most of Micron's DRAM was made in 2025. They want 15% of operating profit paid out quarterly. Mediation broke down on 21 September and a strike vote is planned for early October. Samsung settled in May at 10.5% of its chip division's operating profit for ten years, and SK hynix pays 10%.

If Micron settles around the Korean numbers, I get roughly 10% off EPS, about $16 a share on fiscal 2027 consensus. Micron can absorb that. A strike is much worse because it would hit the fabs making most of its DRAM while the company is signing more take-or-pay volume with customers.
Tonight I'm reading the November guide per week, then the contracted revenue in the 10-K and how much of it is on new products, how much of the cash flow came from deposits, fiscal 2027 capex against the roughly $50bn expectation, and whatever management says about Taiwan.
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Micron's memory upturn is far from overMy Thesis Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run. Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse. HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December. Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly. #EarningsSeason {spot}(MUBUSDT) Read my thesis below. The money in AI has moved to memory For most of this build, GPUs were the obvious bottleneck, and NVIDIA's mid-70s gross margin made that easy to see. Micron is now keeping more of each sales dollar than NVIDIA. Its non-GAAP gross margin was 84.9% in the quarter to May and it has guided about 86% for tonight, while NVIDIA made 75.0% in the quarter to July and has guided about 74% for the next one. WSTS expects memory sales of more than $800bn in a $1.51tn chip market this year. That is more than half the whole semiconductor market. On my back-calculation, memory was about 29% of 2025's $792bn of chip sales. The profit pool has moved pretty hard toward memory as supply tightened. Using the shares Micron discloses in its 10-Q filings, its largest customer, almost certainly NVIDIA, was about 17% of revenue in November and about 7% by May. That customer's spending grew about 30%. The rest of Micron's customers grew 3.4x over the same period, so the extra money is coming from cloud, PC and phone customers too. Micron is building less than it could afford to Memory cycles usually break after the industry gets rich and starts building too much. Micron spent 27% of its sales on capex at the 2018 peak, then raised spending to $9.1bn in fiscal 2019 while revenue fell 23%. For the next six years capex never fell below 32% of sales, and in the loss year of 2023 it was 45%. Micron guided about $27bn of capex for fiscal 2026, roughly 21% of about $130bn of revenue. Even if fiscal 2027 capex gets to the roughly $50bn the Street expects and sales never grow past the November quarter, capex is still only about 22% of revenue. The dollars are huge, but as a share of what Micron is earning this is still the least it has spent in a decade. Cleanroom space is already limiting what the memory makers can add.  Samsung has said supply growth in 2026 and 2027 is limited by cleanroom space, SK hynix's next big fab starts running in mid-2027 and Samsung's in 2028, and HBM uses about three times the wafer area of DDR5 for the same capacity.  So even a lot of new wafer spending does not automatically turn into ordinary DRAM supply. Customers are paying up front to lock in supply In June Micron announced 16 multi-year agreements covering about 20% of its DRAM volume and a third of its NAND. They're take-or-pay with binding volumes. Customers are putting up about $22bn of deposits and commitments, around $18bn of it in cash, and that cash earns them nothing. At 5%, they are giving up about $900m a year of interest just to know the memory will be there. Micron's CEO has said customers want about 50% more supply than Micron can commit to. The largest contracts cap prices near where the market was in April to June. Those customers prepaid against a ceiling that the market moved through almost immediately. TrendForce had contract prices about 15% above that level in the September quarter and is heading for about 30% above by December. UBS carries that gap out much longer. It has the open-market price rising from $16.30 to $23.4 a gigabyte and staying above $20 until mid-2028, while the contract price sits at $10.50. On that model the shortage does not really clear for close to another two years. Micron has also left roughly three quarters of its DRAM at market prices. In my model, taking contract coverage from 23% to 50% costs about $6.4 of yearly EPS at today's prices and about $15 if prices rise another 20%. It only helps if prices fall by more than about half. Management could have locked more volume and chose not to. A bad year for Micron is now a profitable one Micron lost $4.45 a share in fiscal 2023. The contracts make a repeat much harder. Management says floor pricing still gives margins well above any past peak, which was about 62%, and three different ways of backing into the floor, the margin language, the $100bn contract minimum and the covered volume, put it around half of today's price. That is roughly where the market was in February, when Micron earned $12.20 a share in the quarter. On my numbers, that puts a bad year around $47 to $49 a share, close to six times the $8.29 Micron earned in fiscal 2025. The floor-priced contracts themselves only lock in about $11 of that. The take-or-pay volume does more work because 2023 was not just a pricing problem. Micron was carrying idle fabs and writing down inventory. Take-or-pay means fewer idle fabs if spot demand collapses. HBM prices have to rise from here HBM still carries the premium label, but Micron currently makes more money per wafer on ordinary DRAM. TrendForce said HBM3E used to sell for four to five times server DDR5 per bit, narrowing to one to two times by the end of 2026, while HBM still takes about three times the wafer area. Put those together and the revenue from an HBM wafer has gone from about 1.5x a DDR5 wafer to about 0.5x. UBS has Micron at about 89% gross margin on ordinary DRAM in May and 65% on HBM. If that stays there, Micron has a pretty obvious reason to keep wafers in DDR5 until HBM pricing catches up. TrendForce already expects HBM contract prices to rise sharply in 2027. HBM4 and HBM4E sit outside the price ceiling in Micron's agreements.  If HBM is roughly a $100bn market in 2027 and Micron keeps a little over a fifth of it, getting HBM back to parity with DDR5 per wafer adds something like $16 a share a year on my math. If fewer HBM stacks get used per chip instead, wafers go back into server DRAM just as TrendForce raised its fourth-quarter price outlook on cloud demand. Micron is currently making more margin there anyway. Tonight's quarter has an extra week in it Micron's fiscal 2026 has 53 weeks, and the extra one is in the August quarter. August has 14 weeks; May and November have 13. Consensus has August at about $51.4bn of revenue and $31.73 a share, then November at $56.85bn and $34.95. As reported, revenue growth looks like it slows from 24% to 11%. Divide by weeks and it goes from about 15% to about 19%. EPS per week goes from about 17% to about 19% too. TrendForce had contract prices up 90% to 95% in the March quarter and 58% to 63% in June, then 13% to 18% in September, and it expects 10% to 15% for December. 10% or 15% sounds a lot smaller than ninety. It is also being applied to a price level about 3.6x where December started. Options are pricing a move of about 8% either way. If the stock drops because the November guide only looks like 10% growth, I will check the per week number before I assess anything into it. The cash goes back to shareholders from 9 December Micron guided free cash flow above $30bn for August, up from $18.3bn in May, even with capex rising from $7.1bn to about $10bn. A lot of that jump is customer money arriving early. Sell-side estimates put about $10bn of deposits in the quarter, and the extra week helps too. Even if I strip the deposits out, Micron is still running at something like $80bn a year of free cash flow, about 7% of its $1.22tn market value. Include them and it is closer to 10%. From 9 December the CHIPS Act buyback restriction expires, and management has said it'll return 100% of excess cash over time. UBS models $623bn of buybacks from fiscal 2027 to 2030. On its numbers, the share count falls by about a third and fiscal 2028 EPS gets about $31 higher. From 9 December Micron can start buying stock back, and some of the cash behind that program is coming from customers paying early for memory. What $1,065 pays for At the 29 September close of $1,065, Micron is worth about $1.22tn and trades at under seven times fiscal 2027 consensus of $159 a share. Put 10x on that number and you get about $1,590, 49% above the close. I would rather value a memory company on something close to mid-cycle earnings than on the best year. With a bad year around $48 a share and a good one around $140 to $159, I get a middle around $95 to $105. At 12 to 15 times that, the range is about $1,130 to $1,560 before I give any credit to buybacks. The sell-side numbers are all over the place on fiscal 2028 EPS, from about $151 to $275 across four notes this month. The targets are much closer together, and all of them sit 31% to 53% above the 29 September close. I'm focusing more on capex and Taiwan If this breaks, capex is probably where I see it first. A return above about 30% of sales, which means well over $65bn on fiscal 2027 revenue, would start to look like the old cycle again. I would also get nervous if contract price increases fall into low single digits before HBM reprices, or if customers start trying to renegotiate the deposits. Taiwan is the other one. Two unions at Taoyuan and Taichung represent about 10,000 of Micron's 15,000 staff there, where most of Micron's DRAM was made in 2025. They want 15% of operating profit paid out quarterly. Mediation broke down on 21 September and a strike vote is planned for early October. Samsung settled in May at 10.5% of its chip division's operating profit for ten years, and SK hynix pays 10%. If Micron settles around the Korean numbers, I get roughly 10% off EPS, about $16 a share on fiscal 2027 consensus. Micron can absorb that. A strike is much worse because it would hit the fabs making most of its DRAM while the company is signing more take-or-pay volume with customers. Tonight I'm reading the November guide per week, then the contracted revenue in the 10-K and how much of it is on new products, how much of the cash flow came from deposits, fiscal 2027 capex against the roughly $50bn expectation, and whatever management says about Taiwan. #EarningsSeason DISCLAIMER I am doing this independently and sharing it as part of my own research and thinking. The views here are my own and are based on the information available to me at the time. This should not be treated as investment advice or a recommendation to buy, sell, or invest in anything mentioned. Please do your own research, my analysis is my own.

Micron's memory upturn is far from over

My Thesis
Micron is keeping more of every sales dollar than NVIDIA right now, while spending a smaller share of revenue on new capacity than it has at any point in the last decade. I’m bullish on Micron going into tonight. The stock is still under 7x next year’s expected earnings, which feels way too cheap if this memory cycle still has a while to run.
Memory has become the scarcest part of the AI buildout. Supply isn’t catching up quickly either. Micron is spending a smaller share of revenue on new fabs than it has at any point in the last decade, while customers have already handed over about $18bn in cash to lock in five years of supply. You don’t give a supplier that much free money for that long if you expect prices to collapse.
HBM is also still earning less per wafer than ordinary DRAM, so those prices probably still have to move higher. Then the buyback starts in December.
Even if this cycle eventually rolls over, my bad-year number is still around 6x what Micron earned in fiscal 2025. That’s why I don’t think the current multiple is pricing the business properly.
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Read my thesis below.
The money in AI has moved to memory
For most of this build, GPUs were the obvious bottleneck, and NVIDIA's mid-70s gross margin made that easy to see. Micron is now keeping more of each sales dollar than NVIDIA. Its non-GAAP gross margin was 84.9% in the quarter to May and it has guided about 86% for tonight, while NVIDIA made 75.0% in the quarter to July and has guided about 74% for the next one.
WSTS expects memory sales of more than $800bn in a $1.51tn chip market this year. That is more than half the whole semiconductor market. On my back-calculation, memory was about 29% of 2025's $792bn of chip sales. The profit pool has moved pretty hard toward memory as supply tightened.
Using the shares Micron discloses in its 10-Q filings, its largest customer, almost certainly NVIDIA, was about 17% of revenue in November and about 7% by May. That customer's spending grew about 30%. The rest of Micron's customers grew 3.4x over the same period, so the extra money is coming from cloud, PC and phone customers too.
Micron is building less than it could afford to
Memory cycles usually break after the industry gets rich and starts building too much. Micron spent 27% of its sales on capex at the 2018 peak, then raised spending to $9.1bn in fiscal 2019 while revenue fell 23%. For the next six years capex never fell below 32% of sales, and in the loss year of 2023 it was 45%.
Micron guided about $27bn of capex for fiscal 2026, roughly 21% of about $130bn of revenue. Even if fiscal 2027 capex gets to the roughly $50bn the Street expects and sales never grow past the November quarter, capex is still only about 22% of revenue. The dollars are huge, but as a share of what Micron is earning this is still the least it has spent in a decade.
Cleanroom space is already limiting what the memory makers can add.
Samsung has said supply growth in 2026 and 2027 is limited by cleanroom space, SK hynix's next big fab starts running in mid-2027 and Samsung's in 2028, and HBM uses about three times the wafer area of DDR5 for the same capacity.
So even a lot of new wafer spending does not automatically turn into ordinary DRAM supply.
Customers are paying up front to lock in supply
In June Micron announced 16 multi-year agreements covering about 20% of its DRAM volume and a third of its NAND. They're take-or-pay with binding volumes. Customers are putting up about $22bn of deposits and commitments, around $18bn of it in cash, and that cash earns them nothing. At 5%, they are giving up about $900m a year of interest just to know the memory will be there. Micron's CEO has said customers want about 50% more supply than Micron can commit to.
The largest contracts cap prices near where the market was in April to June. Those customers prepaid against a ceiling that the market moved through almost immediately. TrendForce had contract prices about 15% above that level in the September quarter and is heading for about 30% above by December.
UBS carries that gap out much longer. It has the open-market price rising from $16.30 to $23.4 a gigabyte and staying above $20 until mid-2028, while the contract price sits at $10.50. On that model the shortage does not really clear for close to another two years.
Micron has also left roughly three quarters of its DRAM at market prices. In my model, taking contract coverage from 23% to 50% costs about $6.4 of yearly EPS at today's prices and about $15 if prices rise another 20%. It only helps if prices fall by more than about half. Management could have locked more volume and chose not to.
A bad year for Micron is now a profitable one
Micron lost $4.45 a share in fiscal 2023. The contracts make a repeat much harder. Management says floor pricing still gives margins well above any past peak, which was about 62%, and three different ways of backing into the floor, the margin language, the $100bn contract minimum and the covered volume, put it around half of today's price. That is roughly where the market was in February, when Micron earned $12.20 a share in the quarter.
On my numbers, that puts a bad year around $47 to $49 a share, close to six times the $8.29 Micron earned in fiscal 2025. The floor-priced contracts themselves only lock in about $11 of that. The take-or-pay volume does more work because 2023 was not just a pricing problem. Micron was carrying idle fabs and writing down inventory. Take-or-pay means fewer idle fabs if spot demand collapses.
HBM prices have to rise from here
HBM still carries the premium label, but Micron currently makes more money per wafer on ordinary DRAM. TrendForce said HBM3E used to sell for four to five times server DDR5 per bit, narrowing to one to two times by the end of 2026, while HBM still takes about three times the wafer area. Put those together and the revenue from an HBM wafer has gone from about 1.5x a DDR5 wafer to about 0.5x.
UBS has Micron at about 89% gross margin on ordinary DRAM in May and 65% on HBM. If that stays there, Micron has a pretty obvious reason to keep wafers in DDR5 until HBM pricing catches up.
TrendForce already expects HBM contract prices to rise sharply in 2027. HBM4 and HBM4E sit outside the price ceiling in Micron's agreements.
If HBM is roughly a $100bn market in 2027 and Micron keeps a little over a fifth of it, getting HBM back to parity with DDR5 per wafer adds something like $16 a share a year on my math. If fewer HBM stacks get used per chip instead, wafers go back into server DRAM just as TrendForce raised its fourth-quarter price outlook on cloud demand. Micron is currently making more margin there anyway.
Tonight's quarter has an extra week in it
Micron's fiscal 2026 has 53 weeks, and the extra one is in the August quarter. August has 14 weeks; May and November have 13. Consensus has August at about $51.4bn of revenue and $31.73 a share, then November at $56.85bn and $34.95. As reported, revenue growth looks like it slows from 24% to 11%. Divide by weeks and it goes from about 15% to about 19%. EPS per week goes from about 17% to about 19% too.
TrendForce had contract prices up 90% to 95% in the March quarter and 58% to 63% in June, then 13% to 18% in September, and it expects 10% to 15% for December. 10% or 15% sounds a lot smaller than ninety. It is also being applied to a price level about 3.6x where December started.
Options are pricing a move of about 8% either way. If the stock drops because the November guide only looks like 10% growth, I will check the per week number before I assess anything into it.
The cash goes back to shareholders from 9 December
Micron guided free cash flow above $30bn for August, up from $18.3bn in May, even with capex rising from $7.1bn to about $10bn. A lot of that jump is customer money arriving early. Sell-side estimates put about $10bn of deposits in the quarter, and the extra week helps too.
Even if I strip the deposits out, Micron is still running at something like $80bn a year of free cash flow, about 7% of its $1.22tn market value. Include them and it is closer to 10%. From 9 December the CHIPS Act buyback restriction expires, and management has said it'll return 100% of excess cash over time. UBS models $623bn of buybacks from fiscal 2027 to 2030. On its numbers, the share count falls by about a third and fiscal 2028 EPS gets about $31 higher.
From 9 December Micron can start buying stock back, and some of the cash behind that program is coming from customers paying early for memory.
What $1,065 pays for
At the 29 September close of $1,065, Micron is worth about $1.22tn and trades at under seven times fiscal 2027 consensus of $159 a share. Put 10x on that number and you get about $1,590, 49% above the close.
I would rather value a memory company on something close to mid-cycle earnings than on the best year. With a bad year around $48 a share and a good one around $140 to $159, I get a middle around $95 to $105. At 12 to 15 times that, the range is about $1,130 to $1,560 before I give any credit to buybacks.
The sell-side numbers are all over the place on fiscal 2028 EPS, from about $151 to $275 across four notes this month. The targets are much closer together, and all of them sit 31% to 53% above the 29 September close.
I'm focusing more on capex and Taiwan
If this breaks, capex is probably where I see it first. A return above about 30% of sales, which means well over $65bn on fiscal 2027 revenue, would start to look like the old cycle again. I would also get nervous if contract price increases fall into low single digits before HBM reprices, or if customers start trying to renegotiate the deposits.
Taiwan is the other one. Two unions at Taoyuan and Taichung represent about 10,000 of Micron's 15,000 staff there, where most of Micron's DRAM was made in 2025. They want 15% of operating profit paid out quarterly. Mediation broke down on 21 September and a strike vote is planned for early October. Samsung settled in May at 10.5% of its chip division's operating profit for ten years, and SK hynix pays 10%.
If Micron settles around the Korean numbers, I get roughly 10% off EPS, about $16 a share on fiscal 2027 consensus. Micron can absorb that. A strike is much worse because it would hit the fabs making most of its DRAM while the company is signing more take-or-pay volume with customers.
Tonight I'm reading the November guide per week, then the contracted revenue in the 10-K and how much of it is on new products, how much of the cash flow came from deposits, fiscal 2027 capex against the roughly $50bn expectation, and whatever management says about Taiwan.
#EarningsSeason
DISCLAIMER
I am doing this independently and sharing it as part of my own research and thinking. The views here are my own and are based on the information available to me at the time. This should not be treated as investment advice or a recommendation to buy, sell, or invest in anything mentioned. Please do your own research, my analysis is my own.
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i would short some stocks for the short term play. $ARMB and qualcomm both jumped about 13% last week. broadcom fell 1.3%. -- arm went from $275.61 to $310.32.  -- qualcomm went from $177.72 to $201.97.  -- the sox was up 6.3%, micron 6.5%. people are basically betting that agent traffic needs a lot more cpus for every accelerator. maybe that’s right, but i haven’t seen an order book showing that ratio actually changing yet. $MU reports wednesday. if agents are really pulling more chips through, that should start showing up in the numbers. otherwise last week was mostly the multiples moving. {spot}(ARMBUSDT) {future}(MUUSDT)
i would short some stocks for the short term play.

$ARMB and qualcomm both jumped about 13% last week. broadcom fell 1.3%.

-- arm went from $275.61 to $310.32.
-- qualcomm went from $177.72 to $201.97.
-- the sox was up 6.3%, micron 6.5%.

people are basically betting that agent traffic needs a lot more cpus for every accelerator. maybe that’s right, but i haven’t seen an order book showing that ratio actually changing yet.

$MU reports wednesday. if agents are really pulling more chips through, that should start showing up in the numbers. otherwise last week was mostly the multiples moving.
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microsoft is a rare example where you could spend more on capex and still eat your margins YoY. i think $MSFT is a short play for the next few months. {future}(MSFTUSDT) microsoft could slow the build and still have its margins get worse. quarterly cash spending on property and equipment went from $14.9bn to $35.8bn across the last eight quarters. over that same stretch, the cost of revenue in its newly restated agents and infra segment went from $13.6bn to $23.5bn. the equipment already bought keeps getting depreciated after new purchases slow. if microsoft pulls back on the build, i'd expect cash flow to improve before that relief reaches earnings. suppliers would lose new orders while microsoft was still charging the old equipment against revenue. $MSFTB {spot}(MSFTBUSDT)
microsoft is a rare example where you could spend more on capex and still eat your margins YoY. i think $MSFT is a short play for the next few months.

microsoft could slow the build and still have its margins get worse.

quarterly cash spending on property and equipment went from $14.9bn to $35.8bn across the last eight quarters. over that same stretch, the cost of revenue in its newly restated agents and infra segment went from $13.6bn to $23.5bn.

the equipment already bought keeps getting depreciated after new purchases slow. if microsoft pulls back on the build, i'd expect cash flow to improve before that relief reaches earnings. suppliers would lose new orders while microsoft was still charging the old equipment against revenue.

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many analysts out their are bullish on Intel but i would be a bit cautious on it for the next few months. {future}(INTCUSDT) intel foundry did $293m in sales to actual outside customers last quarter. but the whole segment booked $5,765m, and basically all of that ($5,472m) is intel “buying” from intel. they say the transfer pricing is meant to look like market pricing, but it’s still mostly internal. some context: - external revenue a year ago was $22m - segment operating loss was $2,089m - intel products operating income was $4,817m so the foundry loss is about 7.1x bigger than the third-party revenue, and the outside-customer piece is only 5.1% of the segment. that’s why the “mag7 will pay $400bn to secure their own supply chain” story feels premature. at some point, someone has to actually be buying wafers. $293m is up 13x from last year and it’s still… $293m. even with 13x year-over-year growth in external revenue, they are still at $293m against a narrative that hyperscalers will spend hundreds of billions to diversify their chip supply. the numbers don't support that story.
many analysts out their are bullish on Intel but i would be a bit cautious on it for the next few months.

intel foundry did $293m in sales to actual outside customers last quarter.

but the whole segment booked $5,765m, and basically all of that ($5,472m) is intel “buying” from intel. they say the transfer pricing is meant to look like market pricing, but it’s still mostly internal.

some context:
- external revenue a year ago was $22m
- segment operating loss was $2,089m
- intel products operating income was $4,817m

so the foundry loss is about 7.1x bigger than the third-party revenue, and the outside-customer piece is only 5.1% of the segment.

that’s why the “mag7 will pay $400bn to secure their own supply chain” story feels premature. at some point, someone has to actually be buying wafers. $293m is up 13x from last year and it’s still… $293m.

even with 13x year-over-year growth in external revenue, they are still at $293m against a narrative that hyperscalers will spend hundreds of billions to diversify their chip supply. the numbers don't support that story.
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i get why most banks have higher price targets on $MU their thesis varies but mine is very straightforward. micron kept 84.6 cents of every dollar it billed last quarter. a year earlier it kept 37.7. this market is heavily underestimating micron's future cash generation potential. revenue went $9.3bn to $41.5bn over that year, so gross profit went up ten times. -- that markup is the entire reason kioxia is putting upgraded NAND behind CXL to displace some DRAM. -- and the reason CXMT has a 3D DRAM roadmap at all. risk production 2028, mass production 2029. -- every one of those workarounds lands after the contracts being signed this year have repriced. nobody engineers around a normal margin. real question is what they do with the cash once the CHIPS act restriction lifts in december: -- return to shareholders (they’ve said 100% of excess cash, buybacks first) or -- keep pouring it into capacity so the 85 cent on the dollar keeps working beyond the contracts already getting signed -- or go for a bigger ecosystem play (more like what $NVDA did with its frontier lab + neocloud strategy) {future}(NVDAUSDT) {future}(MUUSDT)
i get why most banks have higher price targets on $MU

their thesis varies but mine is very straightforward.

micron kept 84.6 cents of every dollar it billed last quarter. a year earlier it kept 37.7.

this market is heavily underestimating micron's future cash generation potential.

revenue went $9.3bn to $41.5bn over that year, so gross profit went up ten times.

-- that markup is the entire reason kioxia is putting upgraded NAND behind CXL to displace some DRAM.
-- and the reason CXMT has a 3D DRAM roadmap at all. risk production 2028, mass production 2029.
-- every one of those workarounds lands after the contracts being signed this year have repriced.

nobody engineers around a normal margin.

real question is what they do with the cash once the CHIPS act restriction lifts in december:

-- return to shareholders (they’ve said 100% of excess cash, buybacks first) or
-- keep pouring it into capacity so the 85 cent on the dollar keeps working beyond the contracts already getting signed
-- or go for a bigger ecosystem play (more like what
$NVDA did with its frontier lab + neocloud strategy)
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samsung went from 15% of hbm revenue to 33% in a year. sk hynix dropped from 64% to 50%. what will this actually do for the next contract... a buyer with another supplier it can actually qualify has somewhere to move the order. even while every supplier is selling out, i think that's significant. but i'm not calling a price war from revenue share. samsung can gain through volume, product mix or higher prices too. the share table doesn't tell us which. i'm still very bullish on $SKHY as they invest their capex in the right matters. sk hynix's risk is that the shortage lasts, earnings stay strong, and customers still get more negotiating power than what the stock was bought for. {future}(SKHYUSDT)
samsung went from 15% of hbm revenue to 33% in a year. sk hynix dropped from 64% to 50%.

what will this actually do for the next contract... a buyer with another supplier it can actually qualify has somewhere to move the order. even while every supplier is selling out, i think that's significant.

but i'm not calling a price war from revenue share. samsung can gain through volume, product mix or higher prices too. the share table doesn't tell us which.

i'm still very bullish on $SKHY as they invest their capex in the right matters.

sk hynix's risk is that the shortage lasts, earnings stay strong, and customers still get more negotiating power than what the stock was bought for.
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AMD has promised to pay $30.28bn for wafers and packaging it has not received. it made $11.54bn of revenue in the quarter it filed that number. {future}(AMDUSDT) AMD does not own a factory. everything it sells is manufactured by somebody else, mostly tsmc, and the way you get a production slot two or three years out is to promise you will take the output and pay for it whether you end up needing it or not. that promise is not borrowing and it does not appear on the balance sheet. it is one line in a footnote of the 10Q. which was $3.99bn in march 2024 and it is $30.28bn now, 7.6 times bigger. revenue roughly doubled over the same eight filings. so the promise went from about two thirds of one quarter's sales to two and a half quarters of them. AMD spent $1.2bn on its own PP&E in the half year and committed $30bn to everyone else's. that “unconditional” in the note is doing a lot of work. it basically locks in one side. AMD owes the supply chain whether or not the mi355x racks that went to saudi arabia get repeated, and nothing in there puts a customer on the hook on matching terms. at two and a half quarters of sales, one weak quarter turns reserved capacity into parts AMD has to accept and cannot move on. intel and samsung run that same inventory risk, but they own the plant and write it down over years. AMD is carrying it with no fab and nothing to spread it across. {future}(SAMSUNGUSDT) {future}(INTCUSDT) a purchase obligation is a promise to buy. so nothing in the note says who the eventual customer is, or whether there is one. there should be an order book visible.
AMD has promised to pay $30.28bn for wafers and packaging it has not received. it made $11.54bn of revenue in the quarter it filed that number.

AMD does not own a factory. everything it sells is manufactured by somebody else, mostly tsmc, and the way you get a production slot two or three years out is to promise you will take the output and pay for it whether you end up needing it or not. that promise is not borrowing and it does not appear on the balance sheet. it is one line in a footnote of the 10Q.

which was $3.99bn in march 2024 and it is $30.28bn now, 7.6 times bigger. revenue roughly doubled over the same eight filings. so the promise went from about two thirds of one quarter's sales to two and a half quarters of them. AMD spent $1.2bn on its own PP&E in the half year and committed $30bn to everyone else's.

that “unconditional” in the note is doing a lot of work. it basically locks in one side. AMD owes the supply chain whether or not the mi355x racks that went to saudi arabia get repeated, and nothing in there puts a customer on the hook on matching terms.

at two and a half quarters of sales, one weak quarter turns reserved capacity into parts AMD has to accept and cannot move on. intel and samsung run that same inventory risk, but they own the plant and write it down over years. AMD is carrying it with no fab and nothing to spread it across.


a purchase obligation is a promise to buy. so nothing in the note says who the eventual customer is, or whether there is one. there should be an order book visible.
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I'm really bullish on NVIDIA if this acquisition goes through. even if it doesnt, we now know that NVIDIA is going aggressive with their operations. all in all, they are in the right direction. $NVDA {future}(NVDAUSDT)
I'm really bullish on NVIDIA if this acquisition goes through. even if it doesnt, we now know that NVIDIA is going aggressive with their operations. all in all, they are in the right direction.

$NVDA
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hugging face told nvidia no at $7bn last year. nvidia now wants the whole thing at $12.9bn.
NVIDIA went into the 2023 round with google, amazon, amd, intel, qualcomm, ibm and salesforce.

since then it put train on dgx cloud on the site, then its nim inference containers, then training cluster as a service on top of the lepton marketplace it bought in april 2025.

by mid 2025 nvidia owned the compute under hugging face and the containers on it. it didn't own hugging face.

hugging face is doing about $150m a year now, so at $12.9bn nvidia is paying 86x revenue.

-- the 2023 round was 129x revenue when the estimates were ~$35m for that year.
-- if they were near $100m when they said no, nvidia offered 70x revenue for a minority stake and is now paying 86x for the whole company.
-- so it's paying 23% more per dollar to own it outright than it offered for a stake with no say.

i don't think anyone else was bidding.

hugging face runs a router called inference providers.

-- every request goes to one of 18 partners, and by default it goes to whoever is fastest, meaning most tokens per second.
-- cerebras, groq and sambanova are on that list and none of them run nvidia chips, so when one of them is fastest for a model, that's where the request goes.
-- hugging face also writes optimum-amd and optimum-neuron, so the same models run on amd and trainium without cuda, and amd and amazon are on the cap table.
-- hugging face calls that zero vendor lock-in, and a $500m minority holder (what nvidia offered in late 2025) can't change a routing default.

chinese models were 41% of downloads on hugging face last year, more than american ones. there are more than 113,000 models built off qwen on the site, and qwen had passed a billion downloads by march. nvidia can't sell its top chips into china.

revenue went from about $100m a year in june to $150m in august and that's paid compute, storage and subscriptions.

i'd watch whether AMD, Amazon & Google take their 3x and leave, and whether the fastest default is still there once the deal goes through.
and whether qwen and deepseek keep releasing on a site owned by the company whose top chips they can't buy.

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hugging face told nvidia no at $7bn last year. nvidia now wants the whole thing at $12.9bn.NVIDIA went into the 2023 round with google, amazon, amd, intel, qualcomm, ibm and salesforce. {future}(NVDAUSDT) since then it put train on dgx cloud on the site, then its nim inference containers, then training cluster as a service on top of the lepton marketplace it bought in april 2025. by mid 2025 nvidia owned the compute under hugging face and the containers on it. it didn't own hugging face. hugging face is doing about $150m a year now, so at $12.9bn nvidia is paying 86x revenue. -- the 2023 round was 129x revenue when the estimates were ~$35m for that year. -- if they were near $100m when they said no, nvidia offered 70x revenue for a minority stake and is now paying 86x for the whole company. -- so it's paying 23% more per dollar to own it outright than it offered for a stake with no say. i don't think anyone else was bidding. hugging face runs a router called inference providers. -- every request goes to one of 18 partners, and by default it goes to whoever is fastest, meaning most tokens per second. -- cerebras, groq and sambanova are on that list and none of them run nvidia chips, so when one of them is fastest for a model, that's where the request goes. -- hugging face also writes optimum-amd and optimum-neuron, so the same models run on amd and trainium without cuda, and amd and amazon are on the cap table. -- hugging face calls that zero vendor lock-in, and a $500m minority holder (what nvidia offered in late 2025) can't change a routing default. chinese models were 41% of downloads on hugging face last year, more than american ones. there are more than 113,000 models built off qwen on the site, and qwen had passed a billion downloads by march. nvidia can't sell its top chips into china. revenue went from about $100m a year in june to $150m in august and that's paid compute, storage and subscriptions. i'd watch whether AMD, Amazon & Google take their 3x and leave, and whether the fastest default is still there once the deal goes through. and whether qwen and deepseek keep releasing on a site owned by the company whose top chips they can't buy. {future}(GOOGLUSDT) {future}(AMZNUSDT)

hugging face told nvidia no at $7bn last year. nvidia now wants the whole thing at $12.9bn.

NVIDIA went into the 2023 round with google, amazon, amd, intel, qualcomm, ibm and salesforce.
since then it put train on dgx cloud on the site, then its nim inference containers, then training cluster as a service on top of the lepton marketplace it bought in april 2025.
by mid 2025 nvidia owned the compute under hugging face and the containers on it. it didn't own hugging face.
hugging face is doing about $150m a year now, so at $12.9bn nvidia is paying 86x revenue.
-- the 2023 round was 129x revenue when the estimates were ~$35m for that year.
-- if they were near $100m when they said no, nvidia offered 70x revenue for a minority stake and is now paying 86x for the whole company.
-- so it's paying 23% more per dollar to own it outright than it offered for a stake with no say.
i don't think anyone else was bidding.
hugging face runs a router called inference providers.
-- every request goes to one of 18 partners, and by default it goes to whoever is fastest, meaning most tokens per second.
-- cerebras, groq and sambanova are on that list and none of them run nvidia chips, so when one of them is fastest for a model, that's where the request goes.
-- hugging face also writes optimum-amd and optimum-neuron, so the same models run on amd and trainium without cuda, and amd and amazon are on the cap table.
-- hugging face calls that zero vendor lock-in, and a $500m minority holder (what nvidia offered in late 2025) can't change a routing default.
chinese models were 41% of downloads on hugging face last year, more than american ones. there are more than 113,000 models built off qwen on the site, and qwen had passed a billion downloads by march. nvidia can't sell its top chips into china.
revenue went from about $100m a year in june to $150m in august and that's paid compute, storage and subscriptions.
i'd watch whether AMD, Amazon & Google take their 3x and leave, and whether the fastest default is still there once the deal goes through.
and whether qwen and deepseek keep releasing on a site owned by the company whose top chips they can't buy.
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sandisk $SNDKB $SNDK put 25 dollars into its own stock for every dollar it put into a factory this year. bought back nothing at all in either of the two years before, so it started the same year they got $59.8bn of flash reservations on the books. and they don't even own the fabs, kioxia's JVs do. {future}(SNDKUSDT)
sandisk $SNDKB $SNDK put 25 dollars into its own stock for every dollar it put into a factory this year.

bought back nothing at all in either of the two years before, so it started the same year they got $59.8bn of flash reservations on the books.

and they don't even own the fabs, kioxia's JVs do.
nvidia $NVDAB sorts its data centre sales into two piles, the big cloud companies and everyone else. -- in may it said the cloud pile grew 115% and the other one 74%. --in august it published the same quarter again and they're 93% and 91%. the money never changed, $75.2mn either way. one customer worth $5.18mn got moved from one pile to the other in last year's figures. https://x.com/nodiligence/status/2093645958777335981
nvidia $NVDAB sorts its data centre sales into two piles, the big cloud companies and everyone else.

-- in may it said the cloud pile grew 115% and the other one 74%.
--in august it published the same quarter again and they're 93% and 91%.

the money never changed, $75.2mn either way. one customer worth $5.18mn got moved from one pile to the other in last year's figures.

https://x.com/nodiligence/status/2093645958777335981
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nvidia $NVDAB now carries $47.9bn of stock in private companies, up from $3.8bn a year ago. that stake is now about 3.4 times the value of the property and equipment nvidia owns. most of the increase showed up in just two quarters: $14.1bn in the january quarter and another $20.1bn in the april quarter. this is carrying value, not cash spent, and nvidia reported $15.9bn in “other non-operating” income in the april quarter, suggesting a meaningful portion of the jump is revaluation of positions it already had. the filings don’t name any of the underlying holdings. https://x.com/nodiligence/status/2094368992278565094
nvidia $NVDAB now carries $47.9bn of stock in private companies, up from $3.8bn a year ago. that stake is now about 3.4 times the value of the property and equipment nvidia owns.

most of the increase showed up in just two quarters: $14.1bn in the january quarter and another $20.1bn in the april quarter.

this is carrying value, not cash spent, and nvidia reported $15.9bn in “other non-operating” income in the april quarter, suggesting a meaningful portion of the jump is revaluation of positions it already had.

the filings don’t name any of the underlying holdings.

https://x.com/nodiligence/status/2094368992278565094
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$SNDK put 25 dollars into its own stock for every dollar it put into a factory this year. bought back nothing at all in either of the two years before, so it started the same year they got $59.8bn of flash reservations on the books. {future}(SNDKUSDT) and they don't even own the fabs, kioxia's JVs do. follow me on X at @nodiligence.
$SNDK put 25 dollars into its own stock for every dollar it put into a factory this year.

bought back nothing at all in either of the two years before, so it started the same year they got $59.8bn of flash reservations on the books.

and they don't even own the fabs, kioxia's JVs do.

follow me on X at @nodiligence.
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